diff --git a/activity.go b/activity.go
index cbe07dc..ea15da6 100644
--- a/activity.go
+++ b/activity.go
@@ -1153,7 +1153,7 @@ var oldjonks = cache.New(cache.Options{Filler: func(xid string) ([]byte, bool) {
 		return nil, true
 	}
 	user, _ := butwhatabout(honk.Username)
-	rawhonks := gethonksbyconvoy(honk.UserID, honk.Convoy)
+	rawhonks := gethonksbyconvoy(honk.UserID, honk.Convoy, 0)
 	reversehonks(rawhonks)
 	for _, h := range rawhonks {
 		if h.RID == honk.XID && h.Public && (h.Whofore == 2 || h.IsAcked()) {
diff --git a/database.go b/database.go
index f2978e2..a114e91 100644
--- a/database.go
+++ b/database.go
@@ -150,53 +150,53 @@ func geteventhonks(userid int64) []*Honk {
 	reversehonks(honks)
 	return honks
 }
-func gethonksbyuser(name string, includeprivate bool) []*Honk {
+func gethonksbyuser(name string, includeprivate bool, wanted int64) []*Honk {
 	dt := time.Now().UTC().Add(-7 * 24 * time.Hour).Format(dbtimeformat)
 	whofore := 2
 	if includeprivate {
 		whofore = 3
 	}
-	rows, err := stmtUserHonks.Query(whofore, name, dt)
+	rows, err := stmtUserHonks.Query(wanted, whofore, name, dt)
 	return getsomehonks(rows, err)
 }
-func gethonksforuser(userid int64) []*Honk {
+func gethonksforuser(userid int64, wanted int64) []*Honk {
 	dt := time.Now().UTC().Add(-7 * 24 * time.Hour).Format(dbtimeformat)
-	rows, err := stmtHonksForUser.Query(userid, dt, userid, userid)
+	rows, err := stmtHonksForUser.Query(wanted, userid, dt, userid, userid)
 	return getsomehonks(rows, err)
 }
-func gethonksforuserfirstclass(userid int64) []*Honk {
+func gethonksforuserfirstclass(userid int64, wanted int64) []*Honk {
 	dt := time.Now().UTC().Add(-7 * 24 * time.Hour).Format(dbtimeformat)
-	rows, err := stmtHonksForUserFirstClass.Query(userid, dt, userid, userid)
+	rows, err := stmtHonksForUserFirstClass.Query(wanted, userid, dt, userid, userid)
 	return getsomehonks(rows, err)
 }
-func gethonksforme(userid int64) []*Honk {
+func gethonksforme(userid int64, wanted int64) []*Honk {
 	dt := time.Now().UTC().Add(-7 * 24 * time.Hour).Format(dbtimeformat)
-	rows, err := stmtHonksForMe.Query(userid, dt, userid)
+	rows, err := stmtHonksForMe.Query(wanted, userid, dt, userid)
 	return getsomehonks(rows, err)
 }
-func getsavedhonks(userid int64) []*Honk {
-	rows, err := stmtHonksISaved.Query(userid)
+func getsavedhonks(userid int64, wanted int64) []*Honk {
+	rows, err := stmtHonksISaved.Query(wanted, userid)
 	return getsomehonks(rows, err)
 }
-func gethonksbyhonker(userid int64, honker string) []*Honk {
-	rows, err := stmtHonksByHonker.Query(userid, honker, userid)
+func gethonksbyhonker(userid int64, honker string, wanted int64) []*Honk {
+	rows, err := stmtHonksByHonker.Query(wanted, userid, honker, userid)
 	return getsomehonks(rows, err)
 }
-func gethonksbyxonker(userid int64, xonker string) []*Honk {
-	rows, err := stmtHonksByXonker.Query(userid, xonker, xonker, userid)
+func gethonksbyxonker(userid int64, xonker string, wanted int64) []*Honk {
+	rows, err := stmtHonksByXonker.Query(wanted, userid, xonker, xonker, userid)
 	return getsomehonks(rows, err)
 }
-func gethonksbycombo(userid int64, combo string) []*Honk {
+func gethonksbycombo(userid int64, combo string, wanted int64) []*Honk {
 	combo = "% " + combo + " %"
-	rows, err := stmtHonksByCombo.Query(userid, combo, userid)
+	rows, err := stmtHonksByCombo.Query(wanted, userid, combo, userid)
 	return getsomehonks(rows, err)
 }
-func gethonksbyconvoy(userid int64, convoy string) []*Honk {
-	rows, err := stmtHonksByConvoy.Query(userid, userid, convoy)
+func gethonksbyconvoy(userid int64, convoy string, wanted int64) []*Honk {
+	rows, err := stmtHonksByConvoy.Query(wanted, userid, userid, convoy)
 	honks := getsomehonks(rows, err)
 	return honks
 }
-func gethonksbysearch(userid int64, q string) []*Honk {
+func gethonksbysearch(userid int64, q string, wanted int64) []*Honk {
 	honker := ""
 	withhonker := 0
 	site := ""
@@ -225,12 +225,12 @@ func gethonksbysearch(userid int64, q string) []*Honk {
 		q += t
 	}
 	q += "%"
-	rows, err := stmtHonksBySearch.Query(userid, withsite, site, withhonker, honker, honker, q, userid)
+	rows, err := stmtHonksBySearch.Query(wanted, userid, withsite, site, withhonker, honker, honker, q, userid)
 	honks := getsomehonks(rows, err)
 	return honks
 }
-func gethonksbyontology(userid int64, name string) []*Honk {
-	rows, err := stmtHonksByOntology.Query(name, userid, userid)
+func gethonksbyontology(userid int64, name string, wanted int64) []*Honk {
+	rows, err := stmtHonksByOntology.Query(wanted, name, userid, userid)
 	honks := getsomehonks(rows, err)
 	return honks
 }
@@ -667,18 +667,18 @@ func prepareStatements(db *sql.DB) {
 	stmtOneBonk = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.userid = ? and xid = ? and what = 'bonk' and whofore = 2")
 	stmtPublicHonks = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where whofore = 2 and dt > ?"+limit)
 	stmtEventHonks = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where (whofore = 2 or honks.userid = ?) and what = 'event'"+limit)
-	stmtUserHonks = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where (whofore = 2 or whofore = ?) and username = ? and dt > ?"+limit)
+	stmtUserHonks = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.honkid > ? and (whofore = 2 or whofore = ?) and username = ? and dt > ?"+limit)
 	myhonkers := " and honker in (select xid from honkers where userid = ? and (flavor = 'sub' or flavor = 'peep' or flavor = 'presub') and combos not like '% - %')"
-	stmtHonksForUser = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.userid = ? and dt > ?"+myhonkers+butnotthose+limit)
-	stmtHonksForUserFirstClass = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.userid = ? and dt > ? and (what <> 'tonk')"+myhonkers+butnotthose+limit)
-	stmtHonksForMe = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.userid = ? and dt > ? and whofore = 1"+butnotthose+limit)
-	stmtHonksISaved = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.userid = ? and flags & 4 order by honks.honkid desc")
-	stmtHonksByHonker = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"join honkers on (honkers.xid = honks.honker or honkers.xid = honks.oonker) where honks.userid = ? and honkers.name = ?"+butnotthose+limit)
-	stmtHonksByXonker = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+" where honks.userid = ? and (honker = ? or oonker = ?)"+butnotthose+limit)
-	stmtHonksByCombo = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"join honkers on honkers.xid = honks.honker where honks.userid = ? and honkers.combos like ?"+butnotthose+limit)
-	stmtHonksBySearch = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.userid = ? and (? = 0 or xid like ?) and (? = 0 or honks.honker = ? or honks.oonker = ?) and noise like ?"+butnotthose+limit)
-	stmtHonksByConvoy = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where (honks.userid = ? or (? = -1 and whofore = 2)) and convoy = ?"+limit)
-	stmtHonksByOntology = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"join onts on honks.honkid = onts.honkid where onts.ontology = ? and (honks.userid = ? or (? = -1 and honks.whofore = 2))"+limit)
+	stmtHonksForUser = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.honkid > ? and honks.userid = ? and dt > ?"+myhonkers+butnotthose+limit)
+	stmtHonksForUserFirstClass = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.honkid > ? and honks.userid = ? and dt > ? and (what <> 'tonk')"+myhonkers+butnotthose+limit)
+	stmtHonksForMe = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.honkid > ? and honks.userid = ? and dt > ? and whofore = 1"+butnotthose+limit)
+	stmtHonksISaved = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.honkid > ? and honks.userid = ? and flags & 4 order by honks.honkid desc")
+	stmtHonksByHonker = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"join honkers on (honkers.xid = honks.honker or honkers.xid = honks.oonker) where honks.honkid > ? and honks.userid = ? and honkers.name = ?"+butnotthose+limit)
+	stmtHonksByXonker = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+" where honks.honkid > ? and honks.userid = ? and (honker = ? or oonker = ?)"+butnotthose+limit)
+	stmtHonksByCombo = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"join honkers on honkers.xid = honks.honker where honks.honkid > ? and honks.userid = ? and honkers.combos like ?"+butnotthose+limit)
+	stmtHonksBySearch = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.honkid > ? and honks.userid = ? and (? = 0 or xid like ?) and (? = 0 or honks.honker = ? or honks.oonker = ?) and noise like ?"+butnotthose+limit)
+	stmtHonksByConvoy = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"where honks.honkid > ? and (honks.userid = ? or (? = -1 and whofore = 2)) and convoy = ?"+limit)
+	stmtHonksByOntology = preparetodie(db, selecthonks+"join onts on honks.honkid = onts.honkid where honks.honkid > ? and onts.ontology = ? and (honks.userid = ? or (? = -1 and honks.whofore = 2))"+limit)
 
 	stmtSaveMeta = preparetodie(db, "insert into honkmeta (honkid, genus, json) values (?, ?, ?)")
 	stmtDeleteMeta = preparetodie(db, "delete from honkmeta where honkid = ? and genus <> ?")
diff --git a/views/honkfrags.html b/views/honkfrags.html
index 8d72f62..30f6a30 100644
--- a/views/honkfrags.html
+++ b/views/honkfrags.html
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-<div>{{ .TopXID }}</div>
+<div>{{ .TopHID }}</div>
 {{ $BonkCSRF := .HonkCSRF }}
 <div><p>{{ .ServerMessage }}</div>
 <div>
diff --git a/views/honkpage.html b/views/honkpage.html
index 87ad9b2..e421c30 100644
--- a/views/honkpage.html
+++ b/views/honkpage.html
@@ -30,8 +30,8 @@
 var csrftoken = {{ .HonkCSRF }}
 var honksforpage = { }
 var curpagestate = { name: "{{ .PageName }}", arg : "{{ .PageArg }}" }
-var topxid = { }
-topxid[curpagestate.name + ":" + curpagestate.arg] = "{{ .TopXID }}"
+var tophid = { }
+tophid[curpagestate.name + ":" + curpagestate.arg] = "{{ .TopHID }}"
 var servermsgs = { }
 servermsgs[curpagestate.name + ":" + curpagestate.arg] = "{{ .ServerMessage }}"
 
diff --git a/views/honkpage.js b/views/honkpage.js
index 3888a65..5435ec4 100644
--- a/views/honkpage.js
+++ b/views/honkpage.js
@@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ function flogit(el, how, xid) {
 function fillinhonks(xhr) {
 	var doc = xhr.responseXML
 	var stash = curpagestate.name + ":" + curpagestate.arg
-	topxid[stash] = doc.children[0].children[1].children[0].innerText
+	tophid[stash] = doc.children[0].children[1].children[0].innerText
 	var srvmsg = doc.children[0].children[1].children[1]
 	var honks = doc.children[0].children[1].children[2].children
 
@@ -118,7 +118,7 @@ function refreshhonks(btn) {
 	btn.disabled = true
 	var args = hydrargs()
 	var stash = curpagestate.name + ":" + curpagestate.arg
-	args["topxid"] = topxid[stash]
+	args["tophid"] = tophid[stash]
 	get("/hydra?" + encode(args), function(xhr) {
 		var lenhonks = fillinhonks(xhr)
 		btn.innerHTML = "refresh"
diff --git a/web.go b/web.go
index ef4786f..61760f0 100644
--- a/web.go
+++ b/web.go
@@ -100,7 +100,7 @@ func homepage(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 		case "/atme":
 			templinfo["PageName"] = "at me!"
 			templinfo["PageName"] = "atme"
-			honks = gethonksforme(userid)
+			honks = gethonksforme(userid, 0)
 		case "/events":
 			templinfo["ServerMessage"] = "some recent and upcoming events"
 			templinfo["PageName"] = "events"
@@ -108,15 +108,15 @@ func homepage(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 			honks = osmosis(honks, userid)
 		case "/first":
 			templinfo["PageName"] = "first"
-			honks = gethonksforuser(userid)
+			honks = gethonksforuser(userid, 0)
 			honks = osmosis(honks, userid)
 		case "/saved":
 			templinfo["ServerMessage"] = "saved honks"
 			templinfo["PageName"] = "saved"
-			honks = getsavedhonks(userid)
+			honks = getsavedhonks(userid, 0)
 		default:
 			templinfo["PageName"] = "home"
-			honks = gethonksforuser(userid)
+			honks = gethonksforuser(userid, 0)
 			honks = osmosis(honks, userid)
 		}
 		templinfo["HonkCSRF"] = login.GetCSRF("honkhonk", r)
@@ -156,7 +156,7 @@ func showrss(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 
 	var honks []*Honk
 	if name != "" {
-		honks = gethonksbyuser(name, false)
+		honks = gethonksbyuser(name, false, 0)
 	} else {
 		honks = getpublichonks()
 	}
@@ -477,7 +477,7 @@ var oldoutbox = cache.New(cache.Options{Filler: func(name string) ([]byte, bool)
 	if err != nil {
 		return nil, false
 	}
-	honks := gethonksbyuser(name, false)
+	honks := gethonksbyuser(name, false, 0)
 	if len(honks) > 20 {
 		honks = honks[0:20]
 	}
@@ -570,7 +570,7 @@ func showuser(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 		return
 	}
 	u := login.GetUserInfo(r)
-	honks := gethonksbyuser(name, u != nil && u.Username == name)
+	honks := gethonksbyuser(name, u != nil && u.Username == name, 0)
 	templinfo := getInfo(r)
 	filt := htfilter.New()
 	templinfo["Name"] = user.Name
@@ -588,9 +588,9 @@ func showhonker(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 	var honks []*Honk
 	if name == "" {
 		name = r.FormValue("xid")
-		honks = gethonksbyxonker(u.UserID, name)
+		honks = gethonksbyxonker(u.UserID, name, 0)
 	} else {
-		honks = gethonksbyhonker(u.UserID, name)
+		honks = gethonksbyhonker(u.UserID, name, 0)
 	}
 	msg := templates.Sprintf(`honks by honker: <a href="%s" ref="noreferrer">%s</a>`, name, name)
 	templinfo := getInfo(r)
@@ -604,7 +604,7 @@ func showhonker(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 func showcombo(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 	name := mux.Vars(r)["name"]
 	u := login.GetUserInfo(r)
-	honks := gethonksbycombo(u.UserID, name)
+	honks := gethonksbycombo(u.UserID, name, 0)
 	honks = osmosis(honks, u.UserID)
 	templinfo := getInfo(r)
 	templinfo["PageName"] = "combo"
@@ -616,10 +616,10 @@ func showcombo(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 func showconvoy(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 	c := r.FormValue("c")
 	u := login.GetUserInfo(r)
-	honks := gethonksbyconvoy(u.UserID, c)
+	honks := gethonksbyconvoy(u.UserID, c, 0)
 	templinfo := getInfo(r)
 	if len(honks) > 0 {
-		templinfo["TopXID"] = honks[0].XID
+		templinfo["TopHID"] = honks[0].ID
 	}
 	reversehonks(honks)
 	templinfo["PageName"] = "convoy"
@@ -631,7 +631,7 @@ func showconvoy(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 func showsearch(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 	q := r.FormValue("q")
 	u := login.GetUserInfo(r)
-	honks := gethonksbysearch(u.UserID, q)
+	honks := gethonksbysearch(u.UserID, q, 0)
 	templinfo := getInfo(r)
 	templinfo["PageName"] = "search"
 	templinfo["PageArg"] = q
@@ -646,7 +646,7 @@ func showontology(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 	if u != nil {
 		userid = u.UserID
 	}
-	honks := gethonksbyontology(userid, "#"+name)
+	honks := gethonksbyontology(userid, "#"+name, 0)
 	templinfo := getInfo(r)
 	templinfo["ServerMessage"] = "honks by ontology: " + name
 	templinfo["HonkCSRF"] = login.GetCSRF("honkhonk", r)
@@ -742,7 +742,7 @@ func showhonk(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 		honkpage(w, u, []*Honk{honk}, templinfo)
 		return
 	}
-	rawhonks := gethonksbyconvoy(honk.UserID, honk.Convoy)
+	rawhonks := gethonksbyconvoy(honk.UserID, honk.Convoy, 0)
 	reversehonks(rawhonks)
 	var honks []*Honk
 	for _, h := range rawhonks {
@@ -767,8 +767,8 @@ func honkpage(w http.ResponseWriter, u *login.UserInfo, honks []*Honk, templinfo
 	}
 	reverbolate(userid, honks)
 	templinfo["Honks"] = honks
-	if templinfo["TopXID"] == nil && len(honks) > 0 {
-		templinfo["TopXID"] = honks[0].XID
+	if templinfo["TopHID"] == nil && len(honks) > 0 {
+		templinfo["TopHID"] = honks[0].ID
 	}
 	err := readviews.Execute(w, "honkpage.html", templinfo)
 	if err != nil {
@@ -1632,54 +1632,48 @@ func webhydra(w http.ResponseWriter, r *http.Request) {
 	templinfo := getInfo(r)
 	templinfo["HonkCSRF"] = login.GetCSRF("honkhonk", r)
 	page := r.FormValue("page")
+
+	wanted, _ := strconv.ParseInt(r.FormValue("tophid"), 10, 0)
+
 	var honks []*Honk
 	switch page {
 	case "atme":
-		honks = gethonksforme(userid)
+		honks = gethonksforme(userid, wanted)
 		templinfo["ServerMessage"] = "at me!"
 	case "home":
-		honks = gethonksforuser(userid)
+		honks = gethonksforuser(userid, wanted)
 		honks = osmosis(honks, userid)
 		templinfo["ServerMessage"] = serverMsg
 	case "first":
-		honks = gethonksforuserfirstclass(userid)
+		honks = gethonksforuserfirstclass(userid, wanted)
 		honks = osmosis(honks, userid)
 		templinfo["ServerMessage"] = "first class only"
 	case "saved":
-		honks = getsavedhonks(userid)
+		honks = getsavedhonks(userid, wanted)
 		templinfo["PageName"] = "saved"
 		templinfo["ServerMessage"] = "saved honks"
 	case "combo":
 		c := r.FormValue("c")
-		honks = gethonksbycombo(userid, c)
+		honks = gethonksbycombo(userid, c, wanted)
 		honks = osmosis(honks, userid)
 		templinfo["ServerMessage"] = "honks by combo: " + c
 	case "convoy":
 		c := r.FormValue("c")
-		honks = gethonksbyconvoy(userid, c)
+		honks = gethonksbyconvoy(userid, c, wanted)
 		templinfo["ServerMessage"] = "honks in convoy: " + c
 	case "honker":
 		xid := r.FormValue("xid")
 		if strings.IndexByte(xid, '@') != -1 {
 			xid = gofish(xid)
 		}
-		honks = gethonksbyxonker(userid, xid)
+		honks = gethonksbyxonker(userid, xid, wanted)
 		msg := templates.Sprintf(`honks by honker: <a href="%s" ref="noreferrer">%s</a>`, xid, xid)
 		templinfo["ServerMessage"] = msg
 	default:
 		http.NotFound(w, r)
 	}
 	if len(honks) > 0 {
-		templinfo["TopXID"] = honks[0].XID
-	}
-	if topxid := r.FormValue("topxid"); topxid != "" {
-		for i, h := range honks {
-			if h.XID == topxid {
-				honks = honks[0:i]
-				break
-			}
-		}
-		log.Printf("topxid %d frags", len(honks))
+		templinfo["TopHID"] = honks[0].ID
 	}
 	reverbolate(userid, honks)
 	templinfo["Honks"] = honks